Gilbert Palmer

Last updated 23 Oct 2021 in Spear–Johnson Family.

Individual

Born: Abt 1731 in Nine Partners, Dutchess County, Provice of New York, British America

Died: 1806 in Danby, Rutland County, Vermont, United States

Father: William Palmer [3rd] (1694 – 1786)

Mother: Rachel Fowler (? – ?)

Supporting evidence for:
name

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source includes name (Gilbert Palmer).

book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm: John Cox, Jr. (comp.), Quaker Records: Nine Partners Monthly Meeting: Dutchess County, New York; U.S.: unknown; digital page images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsnin00soci; accessed 6 Jun 2018) [Transcriptions of Quaker records.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 100.

Comment: Source includes name (Gilbert PALMER).

estate-proved-william-palmer-1786: Proved will for William Palmer (1786); New York, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 31 Aug 2021) > "Albany> Wills, An-Ap, 1629-1802" images 309–314; citing “Record of Wills Recorded At Albany, New York, 1629-1802; Index 1629-1828; Author: New York. Surrogate's Court (Albany County); Probate Place: Albany, New York”

Additional detail for reference: Image 311, will page 2, item [2.4]

Comment: Source includes name (Gilbert [Palmer]).

family-barak-smith-family-bible-register: Family bible registry entries for the family of Barak Smith; photocopy, privately held [Most entries are believed to have been made by Barak and Mary Smith. Entries are separated by inconsistent types of lines, and not all entries have individuals or couples; several are informational.]

Additional detail for reference: Births page 1, left side, entry 2

Comment: Source includes name (Gilbert Palmer).

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birth

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source includes age (75) at his death and location (Nine <conflict>, N.Y.). Using his age and the year of his death (1806) gives a birth year of about 1731. It is presumed the location was the Nine Partners land grant in Dutchess County, in the province of New York.. See research notes for conflict details.

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death

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source includes year (1806) and implied location (Danby, Vermont).

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father

estate-proved-william-palmer-1786: Proved will for William Palmer (1786); New York, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 31 Aug 2021) > "Albany> Wills, An-Ap, 1629-1802" images 309–314; citing “Record of Wills Recorded At Albany, New York, 1629-1802; Index 1629-1828; Author: New York. Surrogate's Court (Albany County); Probate Place: Albany, New York”

Additional detail for reference: Image 311, will page 2, item [2.4]

Comment: Source identifies Gilbert [Palmer] as a son of William Palmer. The source does not provide sufficient evidence to denote the type of parent/child relationship.

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Family #1

Spouse/Partner: Sarah Deuel (1741 – 1776)

Married: 15 Jan 1761 in Nine Partners, Dutchess County, New York, United States

Supporting evidence for:
marriage

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source notes that Gilbert Palmer and Mary Sherman were married, and that this was Gilbert's second marriage.

book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm: John Cox, Jr. (comp.), Quaker Records: Nine Partners Monthly Meeting: Dutchess County, New York; U.S.: unknown; digital page images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsnin00soci; accessed 6 Jun 2018) [Transcriptions of Quaker records.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 100.

Comment: Source includes date (3-26-1778) and location (Nine Partners). This is presumed to be the Great Nine Partners patent in Dutchess County, New York.

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source notes Gilbert Palmer and Sarah Dewell were married, and notes this was Gilbert's first marriage.

book-palmer-families-in-america-1966: Palmer families in America, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed on multiple dates); citing "Horace Wilbur Palmer, Palmer Families in America; Neshanic, N.J.: Neshanic Print. Co., 1966"

Additional detail for reference: Page 642 (image 645), accessed 5 May 2007

Comment: Source includes date (Jan. 15, 1761) and location (Nine Partners [, New York]).

book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm: John Cox, Jr. (comp.), Quaker Records: Nine Partners Monthly Meeting: Dutchess County, New York; U.S.: unknown; digital page images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsnin00soci; accessed 6 Jun 2018) [Transcriptions of Quaker records.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 100.

Comment: Source includes year (1761).

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Child: Ruth Palmer (1761 – ?)

Child: John Palmer (1762 – 1859)

Child: Job Palmer (1765 – ?)

Child: Levi Palmer (1767 – ?)

Child: Edith (Edy) Palmer (1769 – ?)

Child: Sarah Palmer (1771 – 1863)

Child: Gilbert Palmer Jr. (1774 – ?)

Child: Benjamin Palmer (1776 – ?)

Family #2

Spouse/Partner: Mary Sherman (? – 1815)

Married: 26 Mar 1778 in Nine Partners, Dutchess County, New York, United States

Supporting evidence for:
marriage

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source notes that Gilbert Palmer and Mary Sherman were married, and that this was Gilbert's second marriage.

book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm: John Cox, Jr. (comp.), Quaker Records: Nine Partners Monthly Meeting: Dutchess County, New York; U.S.: unknown; digital page images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsnin00soci; accessed 6 Jun 2018) [Transcriptions of Quaker records.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 100.

Comment: Source includes date (3-26-1778) and location (Nine Partners). This is presumed to be the Great Nine Partners patent in Dutchess County, New York.

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source notes Gilbert Palmer and Sarah Dewell were married, and notes this was Gilbert's first marriage.

book-palmer-families-in-america-1966: Palmer families in America, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed on multiple dates); citing "Horace Wilbur Palmer, Palmer Families in America; Neshanic, N.J.: Neshanic Print. Co., 1966"

Additional detail for reference: Page 642 (image 645), accessed 5 May 2007

Comment: Source includes date (Jan. 15, 1761) and location (Nine Partners [, New York]).

book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm: John Cox, Jr. (comp.), Quaker Records: Nine Partners Monthly Meeting: Dutchess County, New York; U.S.: unknown; digital page images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsnin00soci; accessed 6 Jun 2018) [Transcriptions of Quaker records.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 100.

Comment: Source includes year (1761).

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Child: Daniel Palmer (1778 – 1862)

Child: Hannah Palmer (1780 – ?)

Child: William Palmer (1781 – ?)

Child: Rachel Palmer (1783 – ?)

Child: Reubin Palmer (1784 – ?)

Child: Judah Palmer (1785 – ?)

Child: Elizabeth Palmer (1788 – ?)

Child: Mary Palmer (1788 – ?)

Child: Lydia Palmer (1794 – 1866)

Miscellaneous Facts

Attributes

Religion: (Quaker)

Supporting evidence for:
attributes

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Pages 215-216 (PDF pages 224-225), "Palmer, Gilbert"

Comment: Source includes religion (Quaker).

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General Notes and Anecdotes

Gilbert's marriage to Sarah was outside of Friends. His marriage to Mary was within the faith. [book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm]

Supporting evidence for:
general notes

book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm: John Cox, Jr. (comp.), Quaker Records: Nine Partners Monthly Meeting: Dutchess County, New York; U.S.: unknown; digital page images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsnin00soci; accessed 6 Jun 2018) [Transcriptions of Quaker records.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 100.

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Research Notes (Conflicts/Spelling/Followup)

CONFLICTS

Birth location: This database uses Nine Partners, Dutchess County, Province of New York. The History and Map of Danby, Vermont identifies Gilbert's birthplace as Nine Patners, N.Y., but this is clearly a misspelling of Nine Partners, a land grant in Dutchess County. [book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869]

Relationship (Father): This database uses William Palmer [3rd]. The History and Map of Danby, Vermont identifies his father as Abraham Palmer. Was Abraham the middle name of William? Or vice-versa? Note that Gilbert had a brother named Abraham. [book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869]

Marriage (Sarah Deuel): This database uses Sarah Deuel. The History and Map of Danby, Vermont spells her surname as Dewell. [book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869]

FOLLOWUP

His will was probated 14 Jun 1806, and mentioned his wife Mary and a total of 17 living children. [book-palmer-families-in-america-1966]

Gilbert and Sarah were noted as being married out-of-unity, presumably because Sarah was not a member of the Society of Friends. [book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm, book-palmer-families-in-america-1966]

The meeting records for Nine Partners Monthly Meeting note that Gilbert Palmer and Sarah Deuel were the parents of Mary. However, the only known Mary in this database was born in Dec 1788, the daughter of Gilbert's second wife. Did Gilbert and Sarah have a child named Mary, who would almost certainly have to have been a twin of another child, and who may have died young? [book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm]

He gave land for the Friends Cemetery in Danby, and was the first person to be buried there. [book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869, book-palmer-families-in-america-1966]

Need to find land records to try to resolve the issue of Gilbert being born in a location before his father moved to that location. Is William not (this) Gilbert's father? Was his father really Abraham Palmer, as claimed in The History and Map of Danby, Vermont and other places (see research notes for Gilbert's son Job). [book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869]

Supporting evidence for:
research notes

book-history-and-map-of-danby-vermont-1869: J. C. Williams, The History and Map of Danby, Vermont; Rutland, Vt.: McLean & Robbins, 1869; book image (PDF), Google Books (http://books.google.com: accessed before 20 Apr 2018) [Includes a section devoted to family sketches of contemporary and ancestral individuals as well as sections for civil and military town history. The family sketches appear to be the result of interviews with residents by the author.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 642 (PDF page 645) "Palmer, Gilbert"

book-palmer-families-in-america-1966: Palmer families in America, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed on multiple dates); citing "Horace Wilbur Palmer, Palmer Families in America; Neshanic, N.J.: Neshanic Print. Co., 1966"

Additional detail for reference: Page 642-643 (image 645-646), accessed 5 May 2007

book-quaker-records-nine-partners-mm: John Cox, Jr. (comp.), Quaker Records: Nine Partners Monthly Meeting: Dutchess County, New York; U.S.: unknown; digital page images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsnin00soci; accessed 6 Jun 2018) [Transcriptions of Quaker records.]

Additional detail for reference: Page 100.

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