Ida Belle Miller

Last updated 21 Nov 2021 in Spear–Johnson Family.

Individual

Born: Bet 2 Apr 1922 and 1 Apr 1923 in Strawberry Point, Clayton County, Iowa, United States

Died: 30 Sep 1985 in Hill City, Pennington County, South Dakota, United States

Father: Charles John Miller (1887 – ?)

Mother: Ila Sarah Belle Payne (1887 – 1944)

Supporting evidence for:
name

census-us-1940-ps-ia-clayton-23-9b: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Clayton County, Lotomillo Township, enumeration district 22-23, sheet 9B; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed before Aug 2018) > "Iowa > Clayton > Lodomillo > 22-23" image 19; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 1149 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 52, household 174

Comment: Source includes [married] name (Ida Belle Allgier).

interview-jack-allgier-2011: Notes from interview with John “Jack” Allgier, 9 Aug 2011; privately held

Comment: Source includes name (Ida Miller).

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

Comment: Source includes name (Ida Miller).

obituary-harold-allgiers-1974: Obituary for Harold S. Allgiers (1974); “Harold S. Allgiers,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1974 > 02 > 21" page 17; citing “Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 21 Feb 1974 (Thursday), page 18, column 1”

Comment: Source includes name (Ida _____);

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes [married] name (Ida Allgier) and parent surname (Miller).

obituary-john-allgier-2014: Obituary for John “Jack” Allgier (2014); “John ‘Jack’ Allgier,” Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 31 Jul 2014 (Thursday), page A4, column 1

Comment: Source includes first name (Ida).

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birth

census-us-1940-ps-ia-clayton-23-9b: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Clayton County, Lotomillo Township, enumeration district 22-23, sheet 9B; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed before Aug 2018) > "Iowa > Clayton > Lodomillo > 22-23" image 19; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 1149 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 52, household 174

Comment: Source includes age (17) and location (Iowa). Using the official census date of 1 Apr 1940 gives a birth date range from 2 Apr 1922 to 1 Apr 1923.

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

Comment: Source includes age at next birthday (<conflict>) and location (Strawberry Point, Iowa). See research notes for conflict details.

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes date (July 27, 1922) and location (<conflict>). See research notes for conflict details.

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death

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes date (30 Sep 1885 [computed from relative day (on Monday) and obituary publication date (Tuesday, 1 October 1985)], adn location (Hill City [, South Dakota]).

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father

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

Comment: Source identifies Charles John Miller as the father of Ida Miller. The source does not provide sufficient evidence to denote the type of parent/child relationship.

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mother

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

Comment: Source identifies Ila Sarah Belle Payne as the mother of Ida Miller. The source does not provide sufficient evidence to denote the type of parent/child relationship.

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Family

Spouse/Partner: Harold S. "Huck" Allgier (1911 – 1974)

Married: 18 Jul 1938 in Waverly, Bremer County, Iowa, United States

Supporting evidence for:
marriage

census-us-1940-ps-ia-clayton-23-9b: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Clayton County, Lotomillo Township, enumeration district 22-23, sheet 9B; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed before Aug 2018) > "Iowa > Clayton > Lodomillo > 22-23" image 19; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 1149 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 52, household 174

Comment: Source identifies Ida Belle as wife of Harold Allgier.

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

Comment: Source includes date (18 July 1938) and location (Weverly, Iowa). Note that "Waverly, Iowa" is used in several places on the form, but at the top of the certificate, Waverly is entered into a line for the County name. However, there was no Waverly County in Iowa. It is unknown what the writer intended.

obituary-harold-allgiers-1974: Obituary for Harold S. Allgiers (1974); “Harold S. Allgiers,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1974 > 02 > 21" page 17; citing “Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 21 Feb 1974 (Thursday), page 18, column 1”

Comment: Source identifies Harold S. Allgiers and Ida as married when he died on 30 Sep 1985.

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes date (July 18, 1938) and location (Waverly, Iowa).

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Child: John Stanton "Jack" Allgier (1939 – 2014)

Child: Ronda C. Allgier (1942 – 2006)

Child: Dennis Ray Allgier (1943 – 1960)

Child: <private>

Child: Terrance Patrick "Terry" Allgier (1952 – 1977)

Miscellaneous Facts

Events

Burial: 2 Oct 1985 at Hill City, Pennington County, South Dakota, United States

Graveside Rites: (Hill City Cemetery) at Hill City, Pennington County, South Dakota, United States

Cemetery: (Hill City Cemetery) at Hill City, Pennington County, South Dakota, United States

Supporting evidence for:
events

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes location (Hill City Cemetery [, Hill City, South Dakota]).

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes location (Hill City Cemetery [, Hill City, South Dakota]).

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes location (Hill City Cemetery [, Hill City, South Dakota]).

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Attributes

Residence: 1 Apr 1935 at , Clayton County, Iowa, United States

Residence: 18 Jul 1938 at Strawberry Point, Clayton County, Iowa, United States

Residence: 1 Apr 1940 at Lodomillo Township, Clayton County, Iowa, United States

Residence: 1942 at Hill City, Pennington County, South Dakota, United States

Residence: 26 Sep 1944 at Hill City, Pennington County, South Dakota, United States

Residence: 12 Feb 1977 at Hill City, Pennington County, South Dakota, United States

Supporting evidence for:
attributes

census-us-1940-ps-ia-clayton-23-9b: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Clayton County, Lotomillo Township, enumeration district 22-23, sheet 9B; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed before Aug 2018) > "Iowa > Clayton > Lodomillo > 22-23" image 19; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 1149 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 52, household 174

Comment: Source includes date (1 Apr 1935) and location (Clayton County, Iowa). Although this is the same county in which she lived in 1940, it is not marked as "same" in the 1935 residence data.

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

census-us-1940-ps-ia-clayton-23-9b: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Clayton County, Lotomillo Township, enumeration district 22-23, sheet 9B; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed before Aug 2018) > "Iowa > Clayton > Lodomillo > 22-23" image 19; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 1149 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 52, household 174

Comment: Source includes date (1 Apr 1940) and location (Lodomillo, Clayton County, Iowa).

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes location (Hill City [, South Dakota]) and year (1942).

obituary-ila-miller-1944: Obituary for Ila Sarah Belle (Payne) Miller (1944); “Iowa Deaths / Strawberry Point,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 31 May 2018), image “United States of America > Iowa > Waterloo > Waterloo Daily Courier > 1944 > 09 > 28" page 11; citing “Waterloo Daily Courier (Waterloo, Iowa), 28 Sep 1944 (Thursday), page 11, column 1”

Comment: Source includes location (Hill City, S.D.) and obituary date (28 Sep 1944).

obituary-terrance-allgier-1977: Obituary for Terrance Patrick Allgier (1972); “Terrance P. Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1977 > 02 > 12” page 18; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 12 Feb 1977 (Saturday), page 18, column 6”

Comment: Source includes location (Hill City [, South Dakota]) and obituary date (12 Feb 1977).

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General Notes and Anecdotes

Ida passed at the home of her son John "Jack" Allgier. [obituary-ida-allgier-1985]

Harold and Ida's marriage was witnessed by her sister and her husband, Mr. & Mrs. Harold Childers. [marriage-allgier-miller-1938]

Supporting evidence for:
general notes

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

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Research Notes (Conflicts/Spelling/Followup)

CONFLICTS

Birth Date: This database uses the range 2 Apr 1922 to 1 Apr 1923. The marriage certificate of Harold and Ida gives an age of (18) at her next birthday, which, when applied (using her apparent "current" age of 17) to the certificate date of 18 Jul 1938, gives a birth date range from 19 July 1920 to 18 July 1921. However, just two years later, 1940 U.S. Census says she is 17. While this might be an error of the informant, I suspect it is more likely she lied on the marriage certificate because she was under-age. (At the time a girl could legally marry in Iowa when she was 14, but needed her parent's permission if she was under 18.) [marriage-allgier-miller-1938]

Birth Location: This database uses Strawberry Point, Iowa. Ida's obituary references Mason City, Iowa. Although the marriage certificate appears to be wrong with respect to her birth date, there seems less reason to believe it is wrong on the location, and it was informed directly from Ida, unlike (probably) her obituary. [obituary-ida-allgier-1985]

SPELLING

Surname: This database uses Allgier. The obituary for Harold Allgier adds an incorrect 's' to the end of the name. [obituary-harold-allgiers-1974]

Supporting evidence for:
research notes

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

obituary-harold-allgiers-1974: Obituary for Harold S. Allgiers (1974); “Harold S. Allgiers,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1974 > 02 > 21" page 17; citing “Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 21 Feb 1974 (Thursday), page 18, column 1”

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

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Sources

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