Charles John Miller

Last updated 16 Jan 2021 in Spear–Johnson Family.

Individual

Born: Bet 2 Jan 1887 and 1 Jan 1888 in , , Iowa, United States

Supporting evidence for:
name

census-us-1920-ps-ia-butler-81-1a: 1920 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Butler County, Aredale, enumeration district 81, sheet 1A (form/penned); 1920 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 16 January 2021) > "Iowa > Butler > Bennezette > District 0081" image 1; citing “Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920, NARA microfilm publication T625, roll 480 (of 2076), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 12, dwelling 3

Comment: Source includes name (C. John Miller).

interview-jack-allgier-2011: Notes from interview with John “Jack” Allgier, 9 Aug 2011; privately held

Comment: Source includes name (John [Miller]).

marriage-allgier-miller-1938: Marriage return for Harold Allgier and Ida Miller (1938); Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951, database with images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com: accessed 3 Nov 2020) > “1938 > 1 (Adair County thru Chickasaw County)” image 2257; citing “Iowa Department of Public Health. Iowa Marriage Records, 1880–1951. Textual Records. State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa”

Comment: Source includes name (Charles John Miller).

obituary-ida-allgier-1985: Obituary for Ida (Miller) Allgier (1985); “Ida Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1985 > 10 > 01" page 5; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 1 Oct 1985 (Tuesday), page 5, column 1”

Comment: Source includes name (Charles Miller).

obituary-ila-miller-1944: Obituary for Ila Sarah Belle (Payne) Miller (1944); “Iowa Deaths / Strawberry Point,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 31 May 2018), image “United States of America > Iowa > Waterloo > Waterloo Daily Courier > 1944 > 09 > 28" page 11; citing “Waterloo Daily Courier (Waterloo, Iowa), 28 Sep 1944 (Thursday), page 11, column 1”

Comment: Source includes name (John Miller).

obituary-terrance-allgier-1977: Obituary for Terrance Patrick Allgier (1972); “Terrance P. Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1977 > 02 > 12” page 18; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 12 Feb 1977 (Saturday), page 18, column 6”

Comment: Source includes name (John Miller).

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,
birth

census-us-1920-ps-ia-butler-81-1a: 1920 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Butler County, Aredale, enumeration district 81, sheet 1A (form/penned); 1920 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 16 January 2021) > "Iowa > Butler > Bennezette > District 0081" image 1; citing “Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920, NARA microfilm publication T625, roll 480 (of 2076), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 12, dwelling 3

Comment: Source includes age (32) and location (Iowa). Using his age and the official census date of 1 Jan 1920 gives a birth date range from 2 Jan 1887 to 1 Jan 1888.

interview-jack-allgier-2011: Notes from interview with John “Jack” Allgier, 9 Aug 2011; privately held

Comment: Source includes location (<conflict>). See research notes for conflict details.

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Family

Spouse/Partner: Ila Sarah Belle Payne (1887 – 1944)

Married: 1908 in Aredale, Butler County, Iowa, United States

Supporting evidence for:
marriage

census-us-1920-ps-ia-butler-81-1a: 1920 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Butler County, Aredale, enumeration district 81, sheet 1A (form/penned); 1920 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 16 January 2021) > "Iowa > Butler > Bennezette > District 0081" image 1; citing “Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920, NARA microfilm publication T625, roll 480 (of 2076), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Lines 12,13, dwelling 3

Comment: Source identifies Ila S. Miller as the wife of C. John Miller.

obituary-ila-miller-1944: Obituary for Ila Sarah Belle (Payne) Miller (1944); “Iowa Deaths / Strawberry Point,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 31 May 2018), image “United States of America > Iowa > Waterloo > Waterloo Daily Courier > 1944 > 09 > 28" page 11; citing “Waterloo Daily Courier (Waterloo, Iowa), 28 Sep 1944 (Thursday), page 11, column 1”

Comment: Source includes year (1908) and location (Aredale, Ia.) of marriage of John Miller and Ila Sarah Belle Payne.

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Child: Edna M. Miller (1918 – 1996)

Child: Ida Belle Miller (1922 – 1985)

Miscellaneous Facts

Attributes

Occupation: (laborer) 1 Jan 1920

Residence: 1 Jan 1920 at Aredale, Butler County, Iowa, United States

Residence: 12 Feb 1977 at Oelwein, Fayette County, Iowa, United States

Supporting evidence for:
attributes

census-us-1920-ps-ia-butler-81-1a: 1920 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Butler County, Aredale, enumeration district 81, sheet 1A (form/penned); 1920 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 16 January 2021) > "Iowa > Butler > Bennezette > District 0081" image 1; citing “Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920, NARA microfilm publication T625, roll 480 (of 2076), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 12, dwelling 3

Comment: Source includes official census date (1 Jan 1920) and occupation (Laborer).

census-us-1920-ps-ia-butler-81-1a: 1920 U.S. Census, population schedule, Iowa, Butler County, Aredale, enumeration district 81, sheet 1A (form/penned); 1920 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 16 January 2021) > "Iowa > Butler > Bennezette > District 0081" image 1; citing “Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920, NARA microfilm publication T625, roll 480 (of 2076), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Additional detail for reference: Line 12, dwelling 3

Comment: Source includes official census date (1 Jan 1920) and location (Aredale, Butler County, Iowa).

obituary-terrance-allgier-1977: Obituary for Terrance Patrick Allgier (1972); “Terrance P. Allgier,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 2 May 2018), image “United States of America > South Dakota > Rapid City > Rapid City Journal > 1977 > 02 > 12” page 18; citing “The Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota), 12 Feb 1977 (Saturday), page 18, column 6”

Comment: Source includes location (Oelwein, Iowa) and obituary date (12 Feb 1977).

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General Notes and Anecdotes

John was a bootlegger, according to a grandson. [interview-jack-allgier-2011]

Supporting evidence for:
general notes

interview-jack-allgier-2011: Notes from interview with John “Jack” Allgier, 9 Aug 2011; privately held

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Research Notes (Conflicts/Spelling/Followup)

CONFLICTS

Birth Location: This database uses Iowa. An interview with Jack Allgier indicated he was born in Ireland. [interview-jack-allgier-2011]

FOLLOWUP

According to an interview with one of his grandsons, John changed his name from Paine (or Payne, the interview was verbal) to Miller. However, his wife Ila's last name is Payne. Ila did have a brother John Payne according to her obituary, which may be the source of this confusion. The interview also noted that John had a brother J. C. Paine; is this also Ila's brother, or did John have a brother J. C.? [interview-jack-allgier-2011, obituary-ila-miller-1944]

Supporting evidence for:
research notes

obituary-ila-miller-1944: Obituary for Ila Sarah Belle (Payne) Miller (1944); “Iowa Deaths / Strawberry Point,” Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 31 May 2018), image “United States of America > Iowa > Waterloo > Waterloo Daily Courier > 1944 > 09 > 28" page 11; citing “Waterloo Daily Courier (Waterloo, Iowa), 28 Sep 1944 (Thursday), page 11, column 1”

interview-jack-allgier-2011: Notes from interview with John “Jack” Allgier, 9 Aug 2011; privately held

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Sources

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