Nathaniel Need

Last updated 19 Apr 2021 in Spear–Johnson Family.

Individual

Died: Bef 1622 in , Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Father: Humphrey Need (? – 1668)

Mother: Dorothy ____ (? – ?)

Supporting evidence for:
name

book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004: Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry — A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families; Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004; individual page images, unrecorded site (accessed 15 July 2009)

Additional detail for reference: Page 537, Need family, #18

Comment: Source includes name (Nathaniel [Need]). Note that this is the first of two sons named Nathaniel.

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death

book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004: Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry — A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families; Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004; individual page images, unrecorded site (accessed 15 July 2009)

Additional detail for reference: Page 537, Need family, #18

Comment: This is a guess, see research notes.

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father

book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004: Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry — A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families; Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004; individual page images, unrecorded site (accessed 15 July 2009)

Additional detail for reference: Page 537, Need family, #18

Comment: Source identifies Nathaniel [Need] as a biological [implied] son of Humphrey Need.

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mother

book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004: Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry — A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families; Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004; individual page images, unrecorded site (accessed 15 July 2009)

Additional detail for reference: Page 537, Need family, #18

Comment: Source identifies Nathaniel [Need] as a biological [implied] son of Dorothy (_____) [Need].

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Miscellaneous Facts

Events

Christening: 2 Apr 1617 at , Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Supporting evidence for:
events

book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004: Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry — A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families; Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004; individual page images, unrecorded site (accessed 15 July 2009)

Additional detail for reference: Page 537, Need family, #18

Comment: This is a guess, see research notes.

periodical-genealogical-gleanings-in-gb-1913: “Genealogical Gleanings in Great Britain” by Thomas Allen Glenn, journal article; JSTOR (https://www.jstor.org: accessed 19 Aug 2019), subpath “/stable/20085627”; citing “The Pennsylvania Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 37, No. 1 (University of Pennsylvania Press: 1913), pages 83-88”

Additional detail for reference: p. 86, "Genealogical Gleanings in Great Britain" (Need)

Comment: This is a guess, see research notes.

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Research Notes (Conflicts/Spelling/Followup)

FOLLOWUP

The birth and death dates are not known, nor is it really known if this individual existed. According to Plantagenet Ancestry, Humphrey and Dorothy Need had two sons named Nathaniel. This database accepts this premise for now, and this individual's entry represents that first infant; his younger brother is represented by another individual's entry. [book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004]

Genealogical Gleanings in Great Britain does not indicate there were two Nathaniels, and gives a baptism date of 2 April 1617 for Nathaniel. However, this conflicts with a 1622 date as given in Plantagenet Ancestry, explicitly for the second Nathaniel. Since this database is using the premise there were two Nathaniels, the 1617 baptism is conditionally accepted as Nathaniel's baptism date, but is being applied to the first, who died as an infant, and is represented by this individual's record, The 1622 baptism is applied to the second, and is represented by another individual's record. However, this is guesswork and may be a case of molding the story too much to fit the data. It should be taken as highly questionable, and proper research is needed. [periodical-genealogical-gleanings-in-gb-1913, book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004]

The death date is guessed. Since his brother was also named Nathaniel, the presumption is that the first Nathaniel died before the second was named. [book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004]

Supporting evidence for:
research notes

book-plantagenet-ancestry-2004: Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry — A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families; Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004; individual page images, unrecorded site (accessed 15 July 2009)

Additional detail for reference: Page 537, Need family, #18

periodical-genealogical-gleanings-in-gb-1913: “Genealogical Gleanings in Great Britain” by Thomas Allen Glenn, journal article; JSTOR (https://www.jstor.org: accessed 19 Aug 2019), subpath “/stable/20085627”; citing “The Pennsylvania Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 37, No. 1 (University of Pennsylvania Press: 1913), pages 83-88”

Additional detail for reference: p. 86, "Genealogical Gleanings in Great Britain" (Need)

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