Marguerite Lillian Spies

Last updated 14 Dec 2021 in Spear–Johnson Family.

Individual

Born: 14 Jul 1892 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, United States

Died: 19 Aug 1956 in Compton, Los Angeles County, California, United States

Father: Henry William Spies (1859 – bef 1930)

Mother: Mary Ellen Sullivan (1865 – ?)

Supporting evidence for:
name

birth-robert-caswell-1920: Certificate of birth for Robert Philander Caswell (1920); Cook County, Illinois, registered number 102 (registration district 172), Department of Public Health -- Division of Vital Statistics, filed 19 May 1920; certified copy generated 22 April 1941; privately held

Comment Detail: Source includes name (Marguerite Spies).

census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a: 1930 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles (Assembly District 72), enumeration district 10-552, sheet 12A (form/penned) or page 233A (stamped); 1930 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 7 May 2018) ⟩ "California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles (Districts 501-750) ⟩ District 0552" image 22; citing “Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 153 (of 2667), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.” [FHL microfilm 2339888]

Reference Detail: Line 13, dwelling 243

Comment Detail: Source includes [married] name (⟨spelling⟩ Caswell). See research notes for spelling details.

census-us-1940-ps-ca-losangeles-464-9a: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles, enumeration district 60-464, sheet 9A; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 21 Dec 2018) “⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ 60-464” image 17; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 425 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Reference Detail: Lines 18-20, household 192

Comment Detail: Source includes name (Marguerite Caswell).

family-robert-caswell-bible-register: Family register page from Robert Caswell bible; privately held

Comment Detail: Source includes name (Marguerite Lillian Spies).

interview-helen-oram-2009: Notes from interview with Helen (Johnson) Caswell Oram, 19 Oct 2009; privately held

Reference Detail: Note #12: Robert Caswell.

Comment Detail: Source includes birth name (Margarite Spies), and married surname (Caswell). Information recorded by me, so spelling is possibly wrong.

periodical-woman-kills-self-1956: “Woman Kills Self With Pistol Shot,” news story; Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 12 Jul 2021) ⟩ “United States of America ⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Mirror News ⟩ 1956 ⟩ 08 ⟩ 20” page 10; citing “Mirror News (Los Angeles, California), 20 Aug 1956 (Monday), page 10, column 7”

Comment Detail: Source includes [married] name (Marguerite Caswell).

military-draftreg-clyde-caswell-1942: Draft registration for Clyde Philander Caswell (1942); U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942, database with images, Ancestry (https://ancestry.com: accessed 21 Dec 2018) “⟩ California ⟩ Basacas, Athanasios - Manahan, Ralph William ⟩ ALL” images 172–173; citing “United States, Selective Service System; Selective Service Registration Cards, World War II: Fourth Registration; Records of the Selective Service System, Record Group Number 147; National Archives and Records Administration”

Comment Detail: Source incoludes [married] name (Marguerite S. Caswell).

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birth

family-robert-caswell-bible-register: Family register page from Robert Caswell bible; privately held

Comment Detail: Source includes date (July 14, 1892).

death-robert-caswell-1968: Certificate of Death for Robert Philander Caswell (1968); Los Angeles County Health Department, Los Angeles County, California, registration number unknown, registered 20 Sep 1968, certified copy was generated 24 Sep 1968; photocopy, privately held

Comment Detail: Source identiifies location (Illinois).

birth-robert-caswell-1920: Certificate of birth for Robert Philander Caswell (1920); Cook County, Illinois, registered number 102 (registration district 172), Department of Public Health -- Division of Vital Statistics, filed 19 May 1920; certified copy generated 22 April 1941; privately held

Comment Detail: Source includes age (⟨conflict⟩) and location (Chgo, Ill.). See research notes for confilct details.

census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a: 1930 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles (Assembly District 72), enumeration district 10-552, sheet 12A (form/penned) or page 233A (stamped); 1930 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 7 May 2018) ⟩ "California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles (Districts 501-750) ⟩ District 0552" image 22; citing “Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 153 (of 2667), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.” [FHL microfilm 2339888]

Reference Detail: Line 13, dwelling 243

Comment Detail: Source includes age (⟨conflict⟩) and location (Illinois). See research notes for conflict details.

census-us-1940-ps-ca-losangeles-464-9a: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles, enumeration district 60-464, sheet 9A; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 21 Dec 2018) “⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ 60-464” image 17; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 425 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Reference Detail: Lines 18-20, household 192

Comment Detail: Source includes age (⟨conflict⟩) and location (Illinois). See research notes for conflict details.

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death

periodical-woman-kills-self-1956: “Woman Kills Self With Pistol Shot,” news story; Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 12 Jul 2021) ⟩ “United States of America ⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Mirror News ⟩ 1956 ⟩ 08 ⟩ 20” page 10; citing “Mirror News (Los Angeles, California), 20 Aug 1956 (Monday), page 10, column 7”

Comment Detail: Source includes date ("yesterday" for a story published 20 Aug 1956) and location (Compton [, Los Angeles County, California]).

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father

family-robert-caswell-bible-register: Family register page from Robert Caswell bible; privately held

Comment Detail: Source identifies Marguerite Lillian [Spies] as a child of Henry Wm. Spies. The source does not provide sufficient evidence to denote the type of parent/child relationship.

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mother

census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a: 1930 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles (Assembly District 72), enumeration district 10-552, sheet 12A (form/penned) or page 233A (stamped); 1930 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 7 May 2018) ⟩ "California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles (Districts 501-750) ⟩ District 0552" image 22; citing “Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 153 (of 2667), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.” [FHL microfilm 2339888]

Reference Detail: Lines 12,13,17, dwelling 243

Comment Detail: Source identifies Mary Spies as the mother-in-law of Clyde P. Caswell, the husband of Margurite (Spies) Caswell.

family-robert-caswell-bible-register: Family register page from Robert Caswell bible; privately held

Comment Detail: Source identifies Marguerite Lillian [Spies] as a child of Mary Ellen Sullivan. The source does not provide sufficient evidence to denote the type of parent/child relationship.

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Family

Spouse/Partner: Clyde Philander Caswell (1893 – ?)

Married: 2 Sep 1914 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, United States

Supporting evidence for:
marriage

census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a: 1930 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles (Assembly District 72), enumeration district 10-552, sheet 12A (form/penned) or page 233A (stamped); 1930 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 7 May 2018) ⟩ "California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles (Districts 501-750) ⟩ District 0552" image 22; citing “Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 153 (of 2667), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.” [FHL microfilm 2339888]

Reference Detail: Lines 12,13, dwelling 243

Comment Detail: Source identifies Marguerite Caswell as the wife of Clyde P. Caswell.

family-robert-caswell-bible-register: Family register page from Robert Caswell bible; privately held

Comment Detail: Source includes date (Sept 2, 1914).

interview-helen-oram-2009: Notes from interview with Helen (Johnson) Caswell Oram, 19 Oct 2009; privately held

Reference Detail: Note #12: Robert Caswell.

Comment Detail: Source notes Clyde Caswell and Margarite Spies were married. Information recorded by me, so spelling in the source is possibly wrong.

periodical-woman-kills-self-1956: “Woman Kills Self With Pistol Shot,” news story; Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com: accessed 12 Jul 2021) ⟩ “United States of America ⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Mirror News ⟩ 1956 ⟩ 08 ⟩ 20” page 10; citing “Mirror News (Los Angeles, California), 20 Aug 1956 (Monday), page 10, column 7”

Comment Detail: Source notes that at the time of her death, she was married to Clyde [Caswell].

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Child: Marguerite Eleanor Caswell (1916 – ?)

Child: Robert Philander Caswell (1920 – 1968)

Miscellaneous Facts

Attributes

Residence: 1 Apr 1930 at Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California, United States

Residence: 1 Apr 1935 at Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California, United States

Residence: 1 Apr 1940 at Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California, United States

Residence: 26 Apr 1942 at Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California, United States

Supporting evidence for:
attributes

census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a: 1930 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles (Assembly District 72), enumeration district 10-552, sheet 12A (form/penned) or page 233A (stamped); 1930 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 7 May 2018) ⟩ "California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles (Districts 501-750) ⟩ District 0552" image 22; citing “Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 153 (of 2667), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.” [FHL microfilm 2339888]

Reference Detail: Line 13, dwelling 243

Comment Detail: Source includes census date (1 Apr 1930) and location (Los Angeles City, County: Los Angeles, State: California).

census-us-1940-ps-ca-losangeles-464-9a: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles, enumeration district 60-464, sheet 9A; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 21 Dec 2018) “⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ 60-464” image 17; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 425 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Reference Detail: Lines 18-20, household 192

Comment Detail: Source includes date (1 Apr 1935) and location ("same place" [Incorporated Place: Los Angeles, County: Los Angeles, State: California]).

census-us-1940-ps-ca-losangeles-464-9a: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles, enumeration district 60-464, sheet 9A; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 21 Dec 2018) “⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ 60-464” image 17; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 425 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Reference Detail: Lines 18-20, household 192

Comment Detail: Source includes date (1 Apr 1940) and location (Incorporated Place: Los Angeles, County: Los Angeles, State: California).

military-draftreg-clyde-caswell-1942: Draft registration for Clyde Philander Caswell (1942); U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942, database with images, Ancestry (https://ancestry.com: accessed 21 Dec 2018) “⟩ California ⟩ Basacas, Athanasios - Manahan, Ralph William ⟩ ALL” images 172–173; citing “United States, Selective Service System; Selective Service Registration Cards, World War II: Fourth Registration; Records of the Selective Service System, Record Group Number 147; National Archives and Records Administration”

Comment Detail: Source includes registration date (April 26, 1942) and location (Los Angeles, California).

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General Notes and Anecdotes

By 1930, Marguerite's mother, Mary, was a widow and living with Clyde and Marguerite. [census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a]

Supporting evidence for:
general notes

census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a: 1930 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles (Assembly District 72), enumeration district 10-552, sheet 12A (form/penned) or page 233A (stamped); 1930 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 7 May 2018) ⟩ "California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles (Districts 501-750) ⟩ District 0552" image 22; citing “Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 153 (of 2667), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.” [FHL microfilm 2339888]

Reference Detail: Lines 12-17, dwelling 243

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Research Notes (Conflicts/Spelling/Followup)

CONFLICTS

Birth Date: This database uses 14 Jul 1892. The birth certificate for Robert Caswell includes her age (26), which, when applied to Robert's birth date of 17 Apr 1920, gives a birth date range from 18 April 1893 and 17 April 1894. [birth-robert-caswell-1920]

Birth Date: This database uses 14 Jul 1892. The 1930 U.S. Census gives an age of (36), which, when applied to the offical census date of 1 Apr 1930, gives a birth date range from 2 Apr 1893 to 1 Apr 1894. [census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a]

Birth Date: This database uses 14 Jul 1892. The 1940 U.S. Census gives an age of (46), which, when applied to the official census date of 1 Apr 1940, gives a birth date range from 2 Apr 1893 to 1 Apr 1894. [census-us-1940-ps-ca-losangeles-464-9a]

SPELLING

Given Name: This database uses Marguerite. The 1930 U.S. Census uses Magurite. [census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a]

FOLLOWUP

Most of the sources suggest Marguerite was born between April 1893 and April 1894. It is only the family information in the family bible that gives an 1892 date. Was this an error in the bible? Could her birthday really be 14 Jul 1893?

Clyde and Marguerite probably married in Chicago, Illinois. From Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index 1871-1920)] database on Ancestry.com.

According to several undated newspaper articles from one or more unidentified newspapers, Marguerete died at age 64, or about 1955/1956. The articles are almost certainly about this person, as they were found in the effects of her son's widow.

Supporting evidence for:
research notes

birth-robert-caswell-1920: Certificate of birth for Robert Philander Caswell (1920); Cook County, Illinois, registered number 102 (registration district 172), Department of Public Health -- Division of Vital Statistics, filed 19 May 1920; certified copy generated 22 April 1941; privately held

(no additional information)

census-us-1930-ps-ca-losangeles-552-12a: 1930 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles (Assembly District 72), enumeration district 10-552, sheet 12A (form/penned) or page 233A (stamped); 1930 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 7 May 2018) ⟩ "California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles (Districts 501-750) ⟩ District 0552" image 22; citing “Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 153 (of 2667), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.” [FHL microfilm 2339888]

Reference Detail: Line 13, dwelling 243

census-us-1940-ps-ca-losangeles-464-9a: 1940 U.S. Census, population schedule, California, Los Angeles County, Los Angeles, enumeration district 60-464, sheet 9A; 1940 United States Federal Census, database with images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 21 Dec 2018) “⟩ California ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ Los Angeles ⟩ 60-464” image 17; citing “Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 425 (of 4643), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.”

Reference Detail: Lines 18-20, household 192

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